Enterprise Geeks Podcast – Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me

Is the future grey now that the big Oracle ship is steering the final Sun-set?

Is the future grey now that the big Oracle ship is steering the final Sunset?

Join the boys while they focus on the HUGE news of the week around Oracle buying Sun and what it will mean for Java, MySQL, and other goodies included in the deal. Plus, listen in for a great conversation around using SAP as a trusted partner instead of a security blanket for choosing development tools.

If you have questions, suggestions, or topic ideas for future episodes, give us a shout here. Enjoy!

Episode photo by wili_hybrid via Flickr

Running Time: 64 minutes

Talking Points

  1. 00:15 – Intros & Ramblings
  2. 05:48 – Oracle buys Sun
  3. 33:47 – Initial thoughts on the SAP Agile Development Boot camp
  4. 36:15 – Further discussion around Java and ABAP
    • The war within the SAP world
    • What the hell is a composite?
    • Freedom of Choice vs. Security and Blind Trust
  5. 49:20 – Closing thoughts

Next time you think about the last setting of Sun, be sure to revel in your grief while listening to this song.

7 responses to “Enterprise Geeks Podcast – Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me”

  1. me.yahoo.com/a/abI0B_Anu… says :


    So sorry man….I made a huge mistake on my challenge announcement…you don’t have to spell it…that would be kinda silly and easy…you have to actually pronounce it…because you talked about one product and you pronunciation was really really bad…So you pronounced it well…and you get the prize.

    Need a clue? It’ something you can drink…


  2. Graham Robbo says :

    Another good episode guys.

    IMO video stream is not required, but – in the nature of Blag’s challenge – I challenge you to get Rich Heilman to do a video podcast.

    Rich and I both had our “official” SAP Mentor photos taken together during Hacker Nite at Las Vegas last year. I have never seen a person so reluctant to have his photo taken. I suspect he would fake a heart attack before letting you video him. :-))

    Graham Robbo

  3. Matt Harding says :

    Ed – If you want to really go the daggy tag line…How about:
    “We’re slash N E X out of here”…Or a more tacky response: “I’m no longer starting to feel my Bawls, so it must be time to go.”

    Okay…Starting to understand why no one is sending in ideas for tag lines!

  4. dan mcweeney says :

    I want to know what happened to the video? Did ewH forget to press record?

    • Thomas Jung says :

      The video was strange. We were using Camtasia and the recording worked well in our test run. But when we tried to record a full 60+ minutes, it created a 17Gb file. Camtasia does a post processing where it merges the audio and video together. That process hung at 6% and never proceeded. I’ve done long recordings before in Camtasia, but it guess maybe the full motion video from a camera compresses much different. We will have to play around with some settings and perhaps try again in the future.

  5. Rich Heilman says :

    Yes, that would be a challenge, Graham. I am very camera shy, I prefer to be on the other side of it. But we’ll see what happens at Sapphire in a couple weeks.



  6. Jon Reed says :

    Finally listened to this full review after hearing the podcast in parts before. I think maybe I need to clarify some things about SAP and Java in some kind of follow up blog in terms of my opinions. I’m having a slight regret we went with the title “Triumph of ABAP over Java,” only because that was intended to refer to the way ABAP has solidified its position in SAP’s enterprise core. We weren’t trying to say that ABAP had some kind of comprehensive triumph over Java because in fact that’s not the case. It’s more a case of SAP clarifying which languages are strongest for SAP in which areas. Good lesson on blog titling, making sure the title is not misunderstood, even though I believe the content of the blog got the points across the way I was hoping.

    At any rate I’m with Ed – I don’t like that Oracle has proprietary control over Java any more than I’d want SAP to have it, though for somewhat different reasons. On the plus side, it seems to me that more and more, it’s not a matter of Java per se but a matter of web-based languages in general. So if Oracle doesn’t do right by Java, other relevant web languages that are still open source should pick up the slack. We’ll see? Maybe I’ll stick a microphone in an eGeeks face at Sapphire and get the answer!

    – Jon

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